1960 Comanche 250 For Sale

Price Calculation

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$105,000
(Its negotiable, so make an offer!)

The one thing to remember is that nothing is written in stone here, so look at what is on the page here and feel free to make an offer. I am of the school of thought that says that it never hurts to ask, so I won't be offended by ridculously low offers (or at least what I think are ridiuculously low offers). I will however, politely decline those. But a reasoned well thought out offer? Like I said, you never know until you ask.

Let's start with a basic valuation. Below is a VRef valuation done on November 23, 2006 for a stock Comanche with the Vref adjustments for engine time and additional avionics. It does not include any of the airframe modifications. Because of their extensive nature (over $50,000 worth), I decided to calculate them as separate line items (further down the page), rather than just lump them all into a single dollar amount (which is all Vref lets you do for this sort of thing).

AOPA Online - Vref for 1960 - PIPER COMANCHE PA24 250

AOPA Aircraft Valuation Service

23-November-2006.   
1960 - PIPER COMANCHE PA24 250
$70,985.51 (as configured)
Trade-in value will be considerably less
due to dealer marketing costs, margins and inventory expenses.
Price assumes complete logs, no damage, and all inspections complied.
Model Base Retail Serial No.
24-250 $52,500.00 1477-2298

Airframe Total Time and Engine Time Since Major Overhaul:
Note: Numbers in parenthesis are negative values.
AFTT: 5300. Effect on valuation=($1,014.49) at $1.27/hour.
SMOH Engine #1: 400. Effect on valuation=$5,500.00 at $11.00/hour.

Basic Equipment: DUAL 720 CH. MECH NAVCOMS, ADF, 1000 SMOH, 7 P&I.

Additions/Modifications/Conversions:
Item Retail Value

Other Typical Add-on Equipment (Installed):
Category Item Retail Value
AutoPilot/FD Century NSD360 HSI $4,000.00
AutoPilot/FD STEC 60-2 $6,000.00
Stormscope WX11 $4,000.00

Approximate value for non-listed addons: $0.00

Engine Data:
Item Description
Power / TBO LYC 250HP TBO 2000
Engine Model O-540-A1A5
Fac. Reman. NA
Overhaul $22,000.00


Here are the major airframe modifications. The prices and approximate install times come directly from the OEM where possible (follow the OEM links on the main page). Costs are calculated at $60/hr labor. Some prices have been approximated as some OEM's do not publish current prices. I have noted those as such with the approximation symbol (~).

Airframe Modification Price Install TimeCost
Flap, Aileron and Flap/Fuselage Gap seals $ 750.00 14 hrs $1590.00
Wing Root Fairings 295.00 3.5 hrs 505.00
Wing Fillets 145.00 4 hrs 385.00
Wind Shield Cowler 295.00 4 hrs 535.00
Arapaho Windshield 1255.00 26 hrs 2815.00
Arapaho Dorsal Fin 1395.00 10 hrs 1995.00
Precise Flight Speed Brakes 3995.00 30 hrs 5795.00
Webco Upper Door Latch Kit 214.00 9 hrs 554.00
Speed spats ~500.00 ~6 hrs ~4100.00
Tail Mass Balance Kit ~1500.00 ~16 hrs ~2460.00
Osborne Tip Tanks ~5000.00
Kosola Seat Belts ~1200.00
LoPresti Wholley Cowl ~27500.00
Airframe Modification Totals: $54,434.00

Of course these are just the major airframe modifications. Other niceties that have modernized this Comanche, things like the alternator conversion, Bogart battery box and copper cables, cabin sound proofing, Whelan wingtip and tail strobes, and the ram horn yokes are not included.

Anyway, add it up:
VRef Value: $70,985.00
Airframe modifications: $54,434.00
Total valuation: $125,419.00
My asking price: $105,000.00



The bottom line: its a lot of plane and a pretty good deal.